Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Last Updated on Friday, 3 September 2010 09:30 Written by Administrator Friday, 3 September 2010 09:30
Recently, President Obama signed for embryonic stem cell reseach. I think it will help with so many diseases. It’s a controversial subject and I know life begins at conception which is a proven fact by scientists. I studied cell division, however, when does the soul enter is another question. The Muslim religion believes life doesn’t begin until 120 days after conception. Therefore, Saudi Arabia, is so advanced on embryonic stem cell research. How do you feel about this subject?
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@rad just because we don’t understand what it is. God gave it to us so human babies and all other humans have it. Even you because you are human.
All I can say is that the embryos you call them. When the rapture happens they will be in God’s Heaven.
Embryonic stem cell research “creates” then kills a baby — that’s a human life! Embryonic stem cell experiments are totally stupid!
@ignatius So, just because you believe human beings outside the womb have souls (which is still debatable because there is no one definition of the word soul), does not prove that blastocysts do. One still cannot even prove live human beings have souls! Ppl have diff ideas on what a ‘soul’ is, but it still cannot be proven
@ ignatius even if you were right and a blastocyst is a human being you mess up later on int he quote. You say that if all human beings have souls then blastocysts have souls. Another logic gap. Human beings alive like you and me you can say have souls but just because we have souls now does no mean that blastocysts have proven souls. You just ignored my post from a couple days ago that you cannot prove blastocysts have souls.
no lol a human blastocyst is not actually a physical human being because it is simply a blastocyst. No brain, no human parts just a collection of cells which will eventually become a human being. A blastocyst is not itself a human being; alot of prolifers like to say a blastocyst is a human being but they are wrong by definition. You are using an expected outcome (human being) as a definition for something previous in the process. That is a logic gap.
“No, the right question should be ” Is a human blastocyst, a human being?”
Then, the argument is this, “If a blastocyst is a human being, and if all human beings have souls, then, blastocysts have souls.”"
No, the right question should be ” Is a human blastocyst, a human being?”
Then, the argument is this, “If a blastocyst is a human being, and if all human beings have souls, then, blastocysts have souls.”
@Radetzky19 Thank you!
@mia thats a cool interesting tidbit. My comment was not directed for you to take personally I was just commenting in general in my personal experience how ppl rely on souls as proof for their stance against embryonic stem cell research (mostly Christian evangelicals). That is a cool tidbit mia about Islam. I will remember that.
@ ignatius the problem is I’m guessing you are on the hardcore prolife side and you want to incorporate stem cell research to be halted in public policy on the grounds of that there is a “soul” when you cannot prove such a thing. Noone can prove or find the “arithmetic of souls”
actually the statement should be: you cannot prove that blastocysts HAVE souls.
@Radetzky19
You cannot prove that blastocysts don’t have souls.
@Radetzky19 I personally don’t believe they have souls. The Muslim religion believes that life begins after 120 days, so actually abortions are allowed.
@ignatiusofantioch2 you cannot prove balstocysts have souls
she’s right, but everything is old information.
Yes, and it is rather appalling.
Cindy, The same day mr oblama lifted President Bush’s ban on using Federal Funds for Embryonic Stem Cell Research, he also stopped any and all Federal Funds for Adult Stem Cell Research. So, he gives this big speech on how he wants to further discovery on Stem Cell Research and then he eliminates funds for the one area that is showing the most promise.
Did that help?
UBB
I really think freezing embryos is quite strange. They could be frozen for 20 yrs, perhaps as long as the donor pays for them. It does sound like a weird science experiment. It’s like they are in limbo, so that’s why I feel they don’t have the capacity to think and they aren’t a human being because they are frozen and cell division isn’t occurring anymore. Is that correct? We know that life itself begins with fertilization. From a religious view, that’s where people differ regarding the “soul.”
I thought Saudi Arabia was much more advanced and even Christopher Reeves went there. Let me get this right, Obama stopped federal funds to ASCR (American Stem Cell Research?) and released funds for ESCR (Ebryonic stem cell research.) What is the difference? I really don’t understand. Thanks!
Cindy – Without giving another history lesson, let me just say, for decades scientists have been working to understand the mysteries of ESCs. Bottom line, ESCR is a total failure. Yet, ASCR has produced hundreds of positive results for people, today. Although mr oblama talks a good talk, and has released federal funds for ESCR, he has also stopped federal funds to ASCR.
The only thing I can say about mr oblama is he’s a liar.
From the time that the ovum is fertilized, a life is begun which is neither that of the father nor the mother; it is rather the life of a new human being with his own growth. It would never be made human if it were not human already.
GENETICS, EMBRYOLOGY, OBSTETRICS and BIOLOGY have clearly confirmed this.
mullymyster:”I do not believe they should not be veiwed as human beings”.
ANSWER:
MULTIPLYING TWO NEGATIVES YIELD POSITIVE.
YOU MEAN: I do believe they should be veiwed as human beings”.
YOU ARE RIGHT. THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
And they should be respected with dignity.
mullymyster,
Humanity is defined by the species, not by the level of development of the species.
All developmental stages of a human being ( zygote, blastocyst, fetus, baby, etc.) contain 23 pairs of chromosomes which are human. This is a scientific fact.
I do not believe they should not be veiwed as human beings because there is more than five times the amount of cells in a fly than a embrio.
And as well, Which do you think is more inhumane
~Human stem cells being harvested for life saving technology
~Or an embrio being frozen in a container and left their
~Embrios Being thrown out
It is so much better to use the embrios for life saving technology Rather than just freezing them